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Thomas Paine

To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.

Wednesday, December 28, 2011

28 December - News Notes

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Lyndon LaRouche warning of 9-11 January 2001

History of Bush Family
The documents, many of which were declassified only three years ago, show that even after America had entered the war and when there was already significant information about the Nazis' plans and policies, Prescott Bush worked for and profited from companies closely involved with the very German businesses that hoisted Hitler to power.

While there is no suggestion that Prescott Bush was sympathetic to the Nazi cause (nor is there any proof to the contrary), the documents reveal that the firm he worked for, Brown Brothers Harriman acted as a U.S. base for Fritz Thyssen, the German industrialist who financed Hitler in the 1930s. Evidence shows Bush was the director of the New York-based Union Banking Corp. that represented Thyssen's U.S. interests and he continued to work for the bank well after America entered the war. Bush was also on the board of at least 1 of the companies that formed part of a multinational network of front companies to allow Thyssen to move assets around the world. Papers also show, Prescott Bush was a director and shareholder of a number of companies involved with Thyssen, Germany's most powerful industrial family, and with I.G. Farben, which was prosecuted for war crimes, and is best known as the producer of Zyklon B, a lethal poison widely used at the Auschwitz and Majdanek death camps.
( Isn't it curious in light of various notes that news and records about death camps are scarce that more noise isn't audible about the Bush family....and where does the b.s. end given I don't believe the bin Laden fable about 9-11...but tend to take stories about their involvement in JFK's death seriously ...PNAC ? )
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The boys who cry “Holocaust”

The same neocon hawks who lied us into Iraq are using the ultimate argument-stopper to push war with Iran


http://www.salon.com/2011/11/22/the_boys_who_cry_holocaust/singleton
As one of the most disastrous wars in our history is coming to an inglorious end, the same neoconservative hawks who dreamed it up are agitating for a new war that would make Iraq look like the invasion of Grenada — and using the ultimate trump card in American politics to silence debate over it.

When hawks begin beating the drums for war in the Middle East, Israel is usually a big reason why. That was true in the run-up to the war in Iraq, and it is doubly true with the current  hysteria over Iran. Despite disingenuous claims to the contrary, the only reason the U.S. is even talking about war with Iran is Israel. As the invaluable M.J. Rosenberg, who knows the working of the Israel lobby as only a former card-carrying member can, notes, “It is impossible to find a single politician or journalist advocating war with Iran who is not a neocon or an AIPAC cutout. (They’re often both.)”

Ever since the International Atomic Energy Agency released its overhyped, old-news report on Iran’s nuclear program, Israel’s amen corner in the U.S. has been loudly calling for war.

If American politics did not contain an enormous blind spot, no one would pay any attention to what these discredited ideologues have to say. The Iraq war they championed turned out to be one of the biggest foreign-policy disasters in U.S. history. Their ignorant and Islamophobic view of the Middle East is as breathtaking as their bland willingness to commit America to yet another ruinous war against a Muslim country, this time one four times larger than Iraq and with more than twice as many people. They have a demonstrated track record of complete failure.


    * cabdriver
    * Tuesday, November 22, 2011 at 9:16 pm

I think Raul Hilberg logged more than 15 years of independent research, Gordon.

    Hilberg didn’t truck in the pieties of what became the Holocaust industry that exploited the colossal suffering of Jews for political and financial gain. He rejected the notion that the Nazi holocaust sprang uniquely from virulent anti-Semitism and concomitantly maintained that “Jews were only the first victims” of the German bureaucracy’s genocidal juggernaut, which also targeted Gypsies and Poles, among others. He reckoned Jewish resistance to be negligible but Jewish cooperation (which however he distinguished from collaboration) to be significant, while he reckoned the total number of Jewish victims at closer to 5.1 million. The third volume contains a 20-page appendix detailing his complex calculations of Jewish dead. In contrast Dawidowicz gives a figure for each country and then totals the number, as if this calculation were simply an addition problem whereas, as Hilberg notes, “the raw data are seldom self-explanatory, and…their interpretation often requires the use of voluminous background materials that have to be analyzed in turn.”

    It should go without saying that whether the figure is closer to five than six million is of zero moral significance – except for a moral cretin, who could utter “only five million”? – although Hilberg believed it was of historical significance. Even if it weren’t he almost certainly would still have insisted on the 5.1 million figure if his research showed it was closer to the truth. “Always in my life,” Hilberg wrote unaffectedly in his memoir, “I had wanted the truth about myself.” This was also how he approached the study of the Nazi holocaust.

    His confident knowledge of the field no doubt accounted for Hilberg’s easygoing tolerance of Holocaust deniers. Those who want to suppress them do so not only in disgust at what they might say but also in dread of the inability to answer them. (The hysterical allegation of Holocaust deniers lurking in every corner is apparently also contrived to justify the endless proliferation of Holo-trash.) Hilberg recently made the provocative statement that whereas the Nazi holocaust is an irrefutable fact this was “more easily said than demonstrated.”

(from an elegy for Hilberg, by a guy that some people have characterized as a Jew hater. Read and decide.)

If you think you can impeach Hilberg's research, have at it. But I think that more obsessed adversaries than you have tried.

As far as my own personal research, I'll put it up against yours any day. I haven't looked into what's called "Holocaust denial" for 15 years. But it really doesn't take take nearly that long to detect the overall fraudulence of the position. The HD people are a study in moved goalposts and non-falsifiable hypotheses.

And, mind you, adherence to that viewpoint isn't exactly serving the cause of restraining Israeli militarism.


Iran has been 'under attack' for decades. Feb 2007 the Russian military were convinced the U.S. would shortly follow up on the demonization of a nation - one of several - which promoted nuclear disarmament and worked tirelessly towards that objective : despite the risks of foreign spies not only verifying that they were helpless to retaliate to nuclear attack in kind, but of other defensive capacities as well.
For this presumption they have been hit by economic warfare which was based on the claim that nuclear armed nations could read their real intentions.
And the Holocaust itself is said by Iran to be dishonoured by Israel...as it subjects Semites and more to internment and apartheid : Palestine captive behind the Wall.
Russia supplies fuel and tech to Iran - a close neighbour. Yet in the 60's Turkish sites equipped with nuclear missiles were the impetus for doing likewise in Cuba. Yet Putin went so far as to state any attack on its clients' nuclear industry would be received as if it were an attack on Russia itself....a warning from one who has ICBMs with MIRVs lost in the hoo-haw about the Phantom Menace.


Israeli media report claims the Mossad was behind 'huge blast' at Bid Ganeh base that killed leading Iranian missile researcher
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/14/israel-mossad-iran-blast

Deputy Iranian Defence Minister Martyred in Israel's Jail-Sahar Urdu ...
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkc8IUMS0tA

'Ex-Iranian deputy defense minister strongly resisting in Israeli jail ...
www.tehrantimes.com/.../93576-ex-iranian-deputy-defense-minister-...Cached
16 Dec 2011 – TEHRAN – The director of the armed forces' Bureau for Strategic Studies says that former Iranian deputy defense minister Alireza Asgari is still ...

http://opitslinkfest.blogspot.com/2011/12/19-december-sanctions.html
http://www.transcend.org/tms/2010/05/the-npt-and-the-nuclear-power-trap/
There is much more posted. Near the bottom of this one seems special http://opitslinkfest.blogspot.com/2011/01/9-january-late-links.html


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